Minutes for the Meeting of the New Zealand ACM
Student Chapters, Wellington, 2001
The meeting was opened at 14:24, Friday the 9th of November,
2001, at Victoria University, Wellington.
Present
Agenda
- Welcome (Stuart Marshall)
- Apologies
- Chapter Reports (All)
Next Generation
Tours (Matt Jones)
NZ Journal
(Stuart Marshall)
- Aus/NZ Meeting — Melbourne 2002
(Tim Wright)
- ACM Financing and Sponsorship (General)
- General Business
- Close of Meeting (Stuart Marshall)
Welcome
- The meeting arose out of Tim Wright's earlier trip, that set
up the student chapters.
- The meeting exists as an opportunity to discuss the problems
faced by the chapters, and share ideas.
Apologies
There were no apologies.
Chapter Reports
The chapter chairs discussed current activities of each
chapter.
Canterbury (Tim Wright)
- Canterbury has a close relationship with the Department of
Computer Science, that has helped the chapter get started.
- Department helps subsidise student ACM membership.
- Canterbury has a large graduate involvement with the
chapter, helped by no joining fees.
- The chapter has helped organise conferences, including the
New Zealand Computer Science Research Students' Conference,
2001.
Auckland (Sherry Chen)
- The Chapter has recently merged with the Programmers Club
(SDK).
- Executive of the ACM didn't want to do much, so the merging
with SDK has helped revitalise the group.
- A regular discussion group is held that covers various
pertinent topics.
- A Journal of Programming has been published recently.
- A larger membership would be beneficial to the chapter.
- Social events, such as a basketball game, barbecue, and site
visits are also held.
Massey (Faris Al-Ali)
- The Chapter has recently formed
- Currently there are twelve members of the chapter, with
quality being the focus of increased membership, rather than
raw numbers.
- Talks with Chris Johnston (IBM) are underway to see if
sponsorship is possible.
- Promoting the ACM Programming Competition is seen as a major
function of the Chapter.
- Trying to assist Chapter members with industry placement is
another goal.
Waikato (Stuart Yeates)
- Waikato has just formed their student chapter, with initial
work now complete.
- The chapter has a combined social and academic focus,
with a close relationship with the Department of Computer
Science.
- The chapter is trying to raise awareness if Computer Science
as more than a three year degree.
- Some debates, such as
Is Computer Science a Part of
maths
, have been panned for the first month of the new
year.
- The chapter is also concerned with fostering a relationship
between the Universities, students, and industry.
Victoria (Stewart Marshall)
- The chapter had a similar genesis to Auckland, with it being
preceded by a computer club.
- The chapter has been going for five months, but is
struggling to get numbers up, as Victoria has a small
postgraduate pool.
- Undergraduates make up a large part of the chapter, helped
by a $1,500–2,000 sponsorship deal with Accenture.
This money allows the chapter to provide incentives for
membership, such as pizza at meetings.
- The earlier computing club had success with a gaming group
that wrote a first-person 3D game and managed
steady membership because of this.
Advice (Matt Jones)
Chapters need to provide members with something to
do, but beware of nebulous tasks.
Next Generation Tours (Matt Jones)
- Tim Wright has finished a successful community-building tour
of the North Island setting up ACM Chapters.
- Industry often have tours of universities looking for new
employees.
They have an advantage over universities, who are promoting
graduate study, because they can offer money, and an
extravagant lifestyle.
- The idea is to do a tour, similar to the industry
recruitment tours, that encourages people to stay and do
graduate study in Computer Science.
- The tours will tell everyone how wonderful it is to be a
graduate student, despite having no money!
It will help build a Computer Science community, with the
universities working together, not competing, to encourage
people to stay.
For example, if a University has a better graduate
programme in a particular field (such as Digital Library study
at Waikato) then people should be encouraged to that
university to study.
- New Zealand is a small country, and we have the chance to
make a change, which we would not have in a larger country
such as the United Kingdom.
- Plan
- Tour will take place during one week in July, 2001.
- There will be a team consisting of two students from
each department.
- Harold Thimbleby will be an international guest
speaker, and will give a twenty-minute motivational talk.
- There will be a fifteen minute talk about what it is
like being a graduate.
- An twenty minute informal chat will be held, that allows
perspective graduate students to find out more about the
various department and research groups.
- Finally, a hour-long lunch will be held, with posters on
display that promote the research groups from the different
departments.
- Funding
- The ACM has generously
donated money to buy lunches.
- The various Computer Science departments around the
country have agreed to fund student transport.
- The Royal Society for New
Zealand (RSNZ) has provided its endorsement to the
scheme.
- A liaison within each department.
The following people
volunteered
to be departmental
liaison.
- Faris Al-Ali (Massey)
- ACM Chapter Executive Committee (Canterbury)
- Annette Steel
(Waikato)
- Stewart Marshall (Victoria)
- Sherry Chen (Auckland)
- The liaison officers have to organise the two representatives
from each department, get the department to create the
posters, organise rooms, and do internal promotion of the
Tour.
- Lecturers at Massey and Canterbury do their own promotion,
but it was decided to keep the Tour separate from these
events.
The Tour will promote graduate study in general, without a
focus on any particular university, so it will provide a good
trailer
for the internal events at Massey and
Canterbury.
- It was decided that the tour should be promoted in the RSNZ
Bulletin, as this would increase the profile of Computer
Science within an organization that does not see it as a valid
research field. Stuart (Waikato) volunteered to do this.
Journal (Stewart Marshall)
- A journal that promoted Computer Science, and the ACM
Student Chapters would be a beneficial to all concerned.
- The journal would be upbeat, informal, and distributed New
Zealand wide.
- The journal would not have a research focus, but have
pointers to research.
- It would be published biannually, with a focus on
Computer Science and Information Science
students from second year.
- Founding would be provided by companies who pay for
advertising space.
- A mixture of local and national advertising would be
available.
- Content for the journal would be provided in small blurbs,
similar to the various Bulletins put out by the ACM SIGs.
The articles will promote the activities of the Chapters, and
encourage participation in Computer Science, and travel
between Universities.
- An editor for each section will be needed.
- A March, 2002, publication date is planned, leading up to
the Tour.
- The journal is best described as a magazine, as it will
have no peer-review.
- It would cost approximately $NZ10,000 to publish 4,000 copies
of a 70 page magazine.
Advertising rates would be similar to the New Zealand Herald,
or NetGuide magazine, with rates kept low for the first run
(just to cover costs).
Subsequent editions may generate an income.
Australasia ACM Chapter Heads Meeting (Tim Wright)
- A meeting between the chapter heads in Australia and New
Zealand will be held in Melbourne, Australia, in January,
2002.
- It was decide that trans-Tasman cooperation is too much to
deal with at the moment, as intra-Tasman cooperation is taking
considerable effort.
- The New Zealand heads will discuss the
Tour, magazine,
and the difficulty setting up clubs.
- Hal Bergel may be able to organise finance for the trip, but
noting is definite.
- Tim Wright will contact Melbourne and find out about
accommodation (where, and how much).
- All the chapter heads have to write a report and email it to
Stewart Marshall.
Finance and Sponsorship
- Tim Wright will be meeting with Accenture to see if national
sponsorship of the student chapters is possible.
Tim is seeking $NZ1,600 for each chapter and some money for a
national event.
This level of funding is not much for a large company.
- The $NZ2,500 for setting up the New Zealand Student Chapters
is now gone (with this meeting!)
- To get money from New York we need a budget and a
community building event.
If a focus for an event can be decided, then the chances for
funding are greater.
- A discussion took place that argued the need for a national
body to hold the budget for, and coorinate acitivites such as
tour,
magazine, and NZCSRSC.
- Such a body would need its own consititution and
bank-account.
- Members of the body would be from the Chapters.
- Initially the body would exist to fund, and distribute
procedes of, the publication of the
magazine.
- Tim Wright will contact Hal Bergel to see how state-wide
projects in the United States of America are organised.
General Business
- The Secretary will write a letter of thanks to Hal Bergel and
Victoria thanking them for making this event possible.
External Education
- One of the roles of the ACM is to educate people in the
wider community about Computer Science.
- The Canterbury Chapter has been running a class for
interested high-school children.
- Classes last for 90 minutes, with a 45 minute class, and
a 45 minute programming lab'.
- Michael JasonSmith cautioned people from teaching
primary-school children, as they have short attention
spans and a qualified teacher is really needed to control
them.
- Python is used as a programming language as it is easy
to learn, works on most platforms, and has an extensive
library.
Tim Wright suggested that languages such as Logo, and
KidSim may be more suitable for younger children as they
are quite graphical and provide instant (graphical)
feedback.
- The
Unplugged
book (by
Tim
Bell,
Ian
H. Witten, and
Mike
Fellows) is used as the basis for the classes.
Michael will see about getting a copy of the Unplugged
book to the chapters.
- Tim Wright then discussed the University of Canterbury's
Star programme, which teaches seventh form high-school
students first-year computer science.
- There is a two-hour lecture, and a two-hour lab each
week.
- The students do very well in the assessment, which they
share with the University students.
- It was decided that the Chapters should have more of an
involvement with the wider community.
- Create links with teachers.
- Go to schools and give Unplugged presentations.
- Bring people together!
Problems with University
- Stuart Yeates raised the possibility of the ACM Student Chapters
commenting on the financing problems faced by departments with
increasing rolls, leaving staff, and falling funding.
- It was decided that the chapters should wait until they have
a larger community presence before commenting on political
issues.
Practical Components and Placements
- Faris Al-Ali raised the problem faced with Massey students
who have a practical component to their courses, but struggle
getting placements.
- The possibility of the ACM Chapters assisting with placement
was put forward.
This was extended to a summer-work directory, maybe working
with the people in the department who advertise job positions.
- The magazine was seen as a good place
to advertise these jobs, with an online notice board also
possible.
Closing
Thanks to Victoria University, Wellington, for hosting this event.
Meeting Closed, 16:48.
To Do
| Task |
Person Assigned |
Done |
| Confirm Departmental Liaison status for the Tour |
Faris Al-Ali, Canterbury ACM Executive, Annette Steel,
Stewart Marshall, and Sherry Chen |
| Place Tour notice in RSNZ Bulletin. |
Stuart Yeates |
| Section editors for Magazine |
None (yet) |
| Deciding on the Advertising rates for the magazine |
Craig Box |
| Confirm ACM funding for the Melbourne meeting with Hal
Bergel. |
Tim Wright |
Yes |
| Find out about Melbourne accommodation. |
Tim Wright |
Yes |
| Send chapter report to Stewart Marshall |
Tim Wright, Faris Al-Ali, Sherry Chen, and Craig. |
| Meet with Accenture about national sponsorship. |
Tim Wright |
Yes |
| Contact Hal about how ACM financing of state-wide
projects. |
Tim Wright |
Yes |
| Letters of thanks |
Michael JasonSmith |
Yes |
| Unplugged books for Chapters |
Michael JasonSmith |
Yes |
Michael
JasonSmith
Last modified: Tue Dec 18 13:41:55 NZDT 2001